Comments on: Podcasts, Software and iRSS? http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/ Eclectic. Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:52:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: AJ http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4235 AJ Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:30:26 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4235 Mwahahahahaha!!! Wouldn't go so far as to say I'm a zealot, just like my iPod, and put up with iTunes! You've complained about sonic stage in the past yourself mate :razz: Mwahahahahaha!!! Wouldn’t go so far as to say I’m a zealot, just like my iPod, and put up with iTunes!

You’ve complained about sonic stage in the past yourself mate :razz:

]]> By: Mark http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4234 Mark Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:25:02 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4234 Arguing with a Mac zealot is a pointless activity. So I won't :) Arguing with a Mac zealot is a pointless activity. So I won’t :)

]]> By: AJ http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4232 AJ Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:19:52 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4232 Couple of points from my way of thinking... 1. Those Sony products wouldn't tempt me away form an iPod. The first reason being (As far as I can see) neither of those net Walkmans come with MP3 support built in, which means you have to use sonic stage to convert things to ATRAC -this is a big minus for me, SS is worse than iTunes IMO. Secondly, I have to say I've not seen a better menu navigation system than that on the iPod -to me it's so easy to use and clear and fast, anything else would be clunky! As for iTunes and podcasts.... it's still a bit 'er...' for me. It's started me listening to podcasts alright (especially 'Whack My Bush' and the Engadget Podcast) But I do find their implementation weird. If they're taking the RSS feeds, the updates to episodes should be pretty much instant, but I've found it takes a couple days to get the engadget one up on iTunes, even tho it's on Engadgets site. Maybe it's because I'm looking wrong, but it is annoying, tho overall, I'm happy with it, as I can have one app for all my music and podcasting needs. It's not prefect, but I doubt perfection exists :) Couple of points from my way of thinking…
1. Those Sony products wouldn’t tempt me away form an iPod. The first reason being (As far as I can see) neither of those net Walkmans come with MP3 support built in, which means you have to use sonic stage to convert things to ATRAC -this is a big minus for me, SS is worse than iTunes IMO. Secondly, I have to say I’ve not seen a better menu navigation system than that on the iPod -to me it’s so easy to use and clear and fast, anything else would be clunky!

As for iTunes and podcasts…. it’s still a bit ‘er…’ for me. It’s started me listening to podcasts alright (especially ‘Whack My Bush’ and the Engadget Podcast) But I do find their implementation weird. If they’re taking the RSS feeds, the updates to episodes should be pretty much instant, but I’ve found it takes a couple days to get the engadget one up on iTunes, even tho it’s on Engadgets site. Maybe it’s because I’m looking wrong, but it is annoying, tho overall, I’m happy with it, as I can have one app for all my music and podcasting needs. It’s not prefect, but I doubt perfection exists :)

]]> By: neil http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4220 neil Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:57:33 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4220 HI Phil, many thanks for the Britcaster plug (I'm its creator). I agree to a certain extent with your observation that iTunes (and others) may be segmenting the podcast space rather than being the means podcasting reaches 'mainstream'. There are advantages to the podcaster, however. All of the Britcaster podcasters have found that with the release of iTunes 4.9, their download numbers have leapt up and the vast majority of downloads originate from iTunes. In particular the Britpack - a monthly community-produced podcast by a number of the Britcasters - affords over 80% of its downloads to iTunes... and that's a feed that has not yet been added to the iTunes directory. We are all seeing some odd behaviour in the stats and it will take a little while to smooth out. iTunes might be widening the podcast audience, but is in danger of focusing that audience's attention. After all, why would an average listener bother seek out new and interesting podcasts when they have a 'quality' directory filled with them right there...? I hope you discovered something worthy of a listen or two via Britcaster. :grin: HI Phil, many thanks for the Britcaster plug (I’m its creator).

I agree to a certain extent with your observation that iTunes (and others) may be segmenting the podcast space rather than being the means podcasting reaches ‘mainstream’.
There are advantages to the podcaster, however. All of the Britcaster podcasters have found that with the release of iTunes 4.9, their download numbers have leapt up and the vast majority of downloads originate from iTunes. In particular the Britpack - a monthly community-produced podcast by a number of the Britcasters - affords over 80% of its downloads to iTunes… and that’s a feed that has not yet been added to the iTunes directory. We are all seeing some odd behaviour in the stats and it will take a little while to smooth out.
iTunes might be widening the podcast audience, but is in danger of focusing that audience’s attention. After all, why would an average listener bother seek out new and interesting podcasts when they have a ‘quality’ directory filled with them right there…?

I hope you discovered something worthy of a listen or two via Britcaster. :grin:

]]> By: Mark http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4219 Mark Sun, 17 Jul 2005 06:19:09 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4219 What I meant was that I go to a podcast site, and I find that they are "encouraging" their viewers to get the podcast from Apple. They are doing this by making their podcast feed link from Apple - because they want to be in the Apple chart and high up in it. So for them, to offer a feed that does not go through Apple makes no sense. Yes it is public in that they have the choice, but they have closed it off. They are sucked into the hype - and people like me who will not install their software are left podcastless. What I meant was that I go to a podcast site, and I find that they are “encouraging” their viewers to get the podcast from Apple. They are doing this by making their podcast feed link from Apple - because they want to be in the Apple chart and high up in it. So for them, to offer a feed that does not go through Apple makes no sense. Yes it is public in that they have the choice, but they have closed it off. They are sucked into the hype - and people like me who will not install their software are left podcastless.

]]> By: Phil Boardman http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4215 Phil Boardman Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:44:16 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4215 Well, if they're iTunes only feeds, then how did you find them to start with? I thought the iTunes directory only points to publicly accessible feeds, I could be wrong though. Also, you can import any podcast into iTunes, go "Advanced->Subscribe to Podcast". Well, if they’re iTunes only feeds, then how did you find them to start with?
I thought the iTunes directory only points to publicly accessible feeds, I could be wrong though.

Also, you can import any podcast into iTunes, go “Advanced->Subscribe to Podcast”.

]]> By: Mark http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4214 Mark Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:03:41 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4214 Phil - I looked and as far as I can figure, unless I install iTunes I cannot see anything at all. And some internal links on the Apple site freaked Firefox out. No iTunes ? No podcast directory. Insidious Phil - I looked and as far as I can figure, unless I install iTunes I cannot see anything at all. And some internal links on the Apple site freaked Firefox out.

No iTunes ? No podcast directory.
Insidious

]]> By: Phil Boardman http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4213 Phil Boardman Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:53:18 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4213 Apple doesn't control the RSS feeds of the podcasts it displays in the directories. You should be able to view the website associated with a podcast from the iTunes Store. A little searching on their site should show you their publicly available podcast feed. It has to be there, somewhere, otherwise Apple couldn't publish it. Apple doesn’t control the RSS feeds of the podcasts it displays in the directories. You should be able to view the website associated with a podcast from the iTunes Store. A little searching on their site should show you their publicly available podcast feed. It has to be there, somewhere, otherwise Apple couldn’t publish it.

]]> By: danithew http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/07/16/podcasts-software-and-irss/comment-page-1/#comment-4208 danithew Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:30:11 +0000 http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/?p=1545#comment-4208 You might want to try the Leonard Lopate show. He has interesting guests. You might want to try the Leonard Lopate show. He has interesting guests.

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