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		<title>By: anono</title>
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		<dc:creator>anono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scientology is a cult. follow the psychological steps they take and the lack of spituality in their teachings.

 it is as pathetic as starbucks making its own religion. tom cruise needs mental help. you can see it in his face when he debates these points that he has been hypnotized or brainwashed. its a corporatist agenda. and it appeals to the elitists in america. you dont see scientologist doing expansive humanitarian outreaches to third world countries. they are selfish people and close minded to the world conversation. i know this because ive talked extensively and interviewed several high ranking scientologists. they all share a familiar and eery affinity for dumbed down logic and hyper scientific jargon. id recommend people not only avoid scientology but to study it so you dont make ignorant formulations about what it really is, educate yourself and youll see why its not worth our time... i dont know many poor,broke, welfare scientologists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scientology is a cult. follow the psychological steps they take and the lack of spituality in their teachings.</p>
<p> it is as pathetic as starbucks making its own religion. tom cruise needs mental help. you can see it in his face when he debates these points that he has been hypnotized or brainwashed. its a corporatist agenda. and it appeals to the elitists in america. you dont see scientologist doing expansive humanitarian outreaches to third world countries. they are selfish people and close minded to the world conversation. i know this because ive talked extensively and interviewed several high ranking scientologists. they all share a familiar and eery affinity for dumbed down logic and hyper scientific jargon. id recommend people not only avoid scientology but to study it so you dont make ignorant formulations about what it really is, educate yourself and youll see why its not worth our time&#8230; i dont know many poor,broke, welfare scientologists.</p>
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		<title>By: Stowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good site !!! Interesting content!!! What do you think about my sites?</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisPeper</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChrisPeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 22:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientology is a deadly CULT. Scientology uses blackmale material to keep members in line and extorts a great deal of money from members.

  People are looking for answers to lifes problems so the scam of scientology will continue to destroy lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology is a deadly CULT. Scientology uses blackmale material to keep members in line and extorts a great deal of money from members.</p>
<p>  People are looking for answers to lifes problems so the scam of scientology will continue to destroy lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Salinas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 05:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi!!! Excellent resource you've got here!!! Will definately be back!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!!! Excellent resource you&#8217;ve got here!!! Will definately be back!!!</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 12:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>typical religous nut anwsers yoke...always got an anwser</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>typical religous nut anwsers yoke&#8230;always got an anwser</p>
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		<title>By: What makes you happy ? &#187; Jokes and Insults</title>
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		<dc:creator>What makes you happy ? &#187; Jokes and Insults</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In another post&#8217;s comments here, a commenter called Yoke has last night descended into insulting me because, it seems, I won&#8217;t say what he wants me to say about Scientology. So given that I won&#8217;t bend to his views on what he calls a religion, it was amusing to see this list of the Top 20 Most funny or Most Offensive religious jokes. There are a few oldies in there, and only one was close to the bone for me - and I&#8217;ve heard worse too. No jokes about Scientology either &#8230;. but then it&#8217;s not funny to mock the terminally stupid. If you work for a religious boss, consider it NSFW       Â¤ Read (879) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In another post&#8217;s comments here, a commenter called Yoke has last night descended into insulting me because, it seems, I won&#8217;t say what he wants me to say about Scientology. So given that I won&#8217;t bend to his views on what he calls a religion, it was amusing to see this list of the Top 20 Most funny or Most Offensive religious jokes. There are a few oldies in there, and only one was close to the bone for me - and I&#8217;ve heard worse too. No jokes about Scientology either &#8230;. but then it&#8217;s not funny to mock the terminally stupid. If you work for a religious boss, consider it NSFW       Â¤ Read (879) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scientology is a clever way to separate gullible and dim-witted people from their money.

Scientology is a religion in the same way that unbridled capitalism is a religion...a bunch of self-serving zealots looking out for their own interests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology is a clever way to separate gullible and dim-witted people from their money.</p>
<p>Scientology is a religion in the same way that unbridled capitalism is a religion&#8230;a bunch of self-serving zealots looking out for their own interests.</p>
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		<title>By: Yoke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True colors?  I've been pretty straightforward this whole time.  Furthermore, you've two, Mark and Angsuman, have more then given your fair share of personal insults.  The fact that you two talk like an immature high-schooler with something is something you've made very apparent and does not add anything to your credibility.

I will, however, address dino's comment, which actually sounds like he wants to discuss what's actually relevant.

Tom Cruise never told anyone to stop taking their medication, or even gave any real "medical advice" as the critics have stated.  He simply said anti-depressants as well as all psychotropic drugs are harmful and that there are other things that help women with Postpartum Depression, SUCH AS vitamins and exercise (he didn't say that those were the only choices).  He also never told anyone to immediately stop taking their medication.  Far from it.  In I think the original interview with "Access Hollywood" or whatever show the infamous interview was on where he criticized Brooke Shields' taking of antidepressants, he specifically stated that he has gotten people off psychotropic drugs, they always need to be done under the care of a doctor, it isn't just something to do on your own and he has an easier time getting people off heroin than these drugs.  Psychotropic drugs are in fact drugs that you need to be taken off under the care of a qualified doctor.  This is a proven and stated fact.  They are often addictive and can have very dangerous withdrawal symptoms.

He also never ever said to not get help for any mental problems.  Though he doesn't think psychiatry is a pseudo-science that doesn't mean there aren't other available venues of help.

Tom Cruise is not responsible for those who do things he did not tell them to do.  Obviously people will be influenced by him but if someone decides to stop taking their meds simply on the words of a celebrity, whether or not they are for mental illness, they have problems with guilibility.

However, to wrap this up, I'm not sure what you were talking about in your last two comments on those last two quotes of mine you brought up.  Like I said, I was making the point that you shouldn't make fun of  someone's religious beliefs.  I only used the Jesus and Bible example to give an example of this.  I'm not sure why you're fixated on this point.

However, you have continually dodged the issue here.  You have not brought up any real facts to support your argument and claims.  You have not really answered any of my questions, such as whether or not you do think Tom Cruise has had experience with people who have a mental illness (see my earlier posts).  All you have done here is shot out insults and try to make slick comments.  You have done nothing to show your knowledge on the subject.  This is simply a childish trash-talk blog.

If you do not/cannot actually make an intelligent argument here, displaying some knowledge of facts, you are simply creating a forum for people to blow steam, and this is basically a waste of my time as further arguing on my part will only provoke you to make more insults and empty claims.  So if you choose to dodge the issue then I shall not write anymore comments here.  

I'm sure you are all quite happy at this, as if I gave up, but just remember I actually made an argument here and have at least brought up some at least plausible points, whereas you have done nothing but insult and say, "He's wrong," with nothing to back up your claims.

And by the way, you can say what you want of me should I decide not to post on here anymore, I don't care.  I'd rather talk to people who can actually go somewhere with the conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True colors?  I&#8217;ve been pretty straightforward this whole time.  Furthermore, you&#8217;ve two, Mark and Angsuman, have more then given your fair share of personal insults.  The fact that you two talk like an immature high-schooler with something is something you&#8217;ve made very apparent and does not add anything to your credibility.</p>
<p>I will, however, address dino&#8217;s comment, which actually sounds like he wants to discuss what&#8217;s actually relevant.</p>
<p>Tom Cruise never told anyone to stop taking their medication, or even gave any real &#8220;medical advice&#8221; as the critics have stated.  He simply said anti-depressants as well as all psychotropic drugs are harmful and that there are other things that help women with Postpartum Depression, SUCH AS vitamins and exercise (he didn&#8217;t say that those were the only choices).  He also never told anyone to immediately stop taking their medication.  Far from it.  In I think the original interview with &#8220;Access Hollywood&#8221; or whatever show the infamous interview was on where he criticized Brooke Shields&#8217; taking of antidepressants, he specifically stated that he has gotten people off psychotropic drugs, they always need to be done under the care of a doctor, it isn&#8217;t just something to do on your own and he has an easier time getting people off heroin than these drugs.  Psychotropic drugs are in fact drugs that you need to be taken off under the care of a qualified doctor.  This is a proven and stated fact.  They are often addictive and can have very dangerous withdrawal symptoms.</p>
<p>He also never ever said to not get help for any mental problems.  Though he doesn&#8217;t think psychiatry is a pseudo-science that doesn&#8217;t mean there aren&#8217;t other available venues of help.</p>
<p>Tom Cruise is not responsible for those who do things he did not tell them to do.  Obviously people will be influenced by him but if someone decides to stop taking their meds simply on the words of a celebrity, whether or not they are for mental illness, they have problems with guilibility.</p>
<p>However, to wrap this up, I&#8217;m not sure what you were talking about in your last two comments on those last two quotes of mine you brought up.  Like I said, I was making the point that you shouldn&#8217;t make fun of  someone&#8217;s religious beliefs.  I only used the Jesus and Bible example to give an example of this.  I&#8217;m not sure why you&#8217;re fixated on this point.</p>
<p>However, you have continually dodged the issue here.  You have not brought up any real facts to support your argument and claims.  You have not really answered any of my questions, such as whether or not you do think Tom Cruise has had experience with people who have a mental illness (see my earlier posts).  All you have done here is shot out insults and try to make slick comments.  You have done nothing to show your knowledge on the subject.  This is simply a childish trash-talk blog.</p>
<p>If you do not/cannot actually make an intelligent argument here, displaying some knowledge of facts, you are simply creating a forum for people to blow steam, and this is basically a waste of my time as further arguing on my part will only provoke you to make more insults and empty claims.  So if you choose to dodge the issue then I shall not write anymore comments here.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you are all quite happy at this, as if I gave up, but just remember I actually made an argument here and have at least brought up some at least plausible points, whereas you have done nothing but insult and say, &#8220;He&#8217;s wrong,&#8221; with nothing to back up your claims.</p>
<p>And by the way, you can say what you want of me should I decide not to post on here anymore, I don&#8217;t care.  I&#8217;d rather talk to people who can actually go somewhere with the conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I cannot help but doubt your claims of being a nurse since you talk in the manner I would expect of an immature high schooler who spends much of his time making fun of others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and somehow, I cannot help but doubt your claims that you are not involved in Scientology. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;In answer to the person who asked me what made me think they had religions (of their own) to get offended about, well, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t. I was making a point. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think someone should have to belong to a religion though to be offended by someone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s negative comments.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Oh, Sorry. When you said ...

&lt;blockquote&gt; I could take your religion and DO THE EXACT SAME THING. Oh, Christianity is based on a Carpenter and the Bible is full of ghost stories and fairy tales. You would take offense to that and I would be villified, yet you have no problem with doing the same to Scientologists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I simply assumed that your use of "your religion" and "you would take offense to that" that you were assuming religion. Christianity, even.

I guess you just typed a lot of bollocks by mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I cannot help but doubt your claims of being a nurse since you talk in the manner I would expect of an immature high schooler who spends much of his time making fun of others.</p></blockquote>
<p>and somehow, I cannot help but doubt your claims that you are not involved in Scientology. </p>
<blockquote><p>In answer to the person who asked me what made me think they had religions (of their own) to get offended about, well, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t. I was making a point. I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think someone should have to belong to a religion though to be offended by someone elseÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s negative comments.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh, Sorry. When you said &#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p> I could take your religion and DO THE EXACT SAME THING. Oh, Christianity is based on a Carpenter and the Bible is full of ghost stories and fairy tales. You would take offense to that and I would be villified, yet you have no problem with doing the same to Scientologists.</p></blockquote>
<p>I simply assumed that your use of &#8220;your religion&#8221; and &#8220;you would take offense to that&#8221; that you were assuming religion. Christianity, even.</p>
<p>I guess you just typed a lot of bollocks by mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: dino</title>
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		<dc:creator>dino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've come to this thread pretty late on. I've no experience of mental health and I have no strong opinions on Tom Cruise either way.

However, it has to be recognised that any public figure has a responsibility to the public and needs to realise that his every word can have serious consequences. If TC believes that psychiatry is bunkum and that drugs are bad then that is his own choice. However, if he says this publically then there are people out there that will listen to what he says, that will stop going to their counsellors or will stop taking their meds. This could lead to deaths because someone cannot control themselves and lash out or commit suicide. You may well say that the chances of that are pretty slim but just one unneccessary death is one too many. I wouldn't want that kinda thing on my conscience and I'm sure TC wouldn't either. He needs to realise the effect his words can have - for bad as well as whatever good he perceives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to this thread pretty late on. I&#8217;ve no experience of mental health and I have no strong opinions on Tom Cruise either way.</p>
<p>However, it has to be recognised that any public figure has a responsibility to the public and needs to realise that his every word can have serious consequences. If TC believes that psychiatry is bunkum and that drugs are bad then that is his own choice. However, if he says this publically then there are people out there that will listen to what he says, that will stop going to their counsellors or will stop taking their meds. This could lead to deaths because someone cannot control themselves and lash out or commit suicide. You may well say that the chances of that are pretty slim but just one unneccessary death is one too many. I wouldn&#8217;t want that kinda thing on my conscience and I&#8217;m sure TC wouldn&#8217;t either. He needs to realise the effect his words can have - for bad as well as whatever good he perceives.</p>
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