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		<title>By: pig</title>
		<link>http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/04/13/bend-at-the-toes/comment-page-1/#comment-2841</link>
		<dc:creator>pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 20:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry Mark.
(This is not a response to your last 2 comments. I came here to write this and then saw them.)
I&#039;m messed up over crap in my own life and then read your blog and started writing too fast. again.
So sorry both that all this crap is coming down on you and that I jumped in like that. I hope it lets up soon and is as liveable as possible in the meantime.
((((Mark))))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry Mark.<br />
(This is not a response to your last 2 comments. I came here to write this and then saw them.)<br />
I&#8217;m messed up over crap in my own life and then read your blog and started writing too fast. again.<br />
So sorry both that all this crap is coming down on you and that I jumped in like that. I hope it lets up soon and is as liveable as possible in the meantime.<br />
((((Mark))))</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/04/13/bend-at-the-toes/comment-page-1/#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ignore me.
I&#039;ll live.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignore me.<br />
I&#8217;ll live.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/04/13/bend-at-the-toes/comment-page-1/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s frustration, sheer frustration at &lt;em&gt;everything&lt;/em&gt; in my world being out of my control right now.

Cut or cry.
Or both.

It&#039;s nothing more than me trying to express myself and because I never ever edit posts, or draft entries, when I write it comes out maybe not in a polished way. But that&#039;s how I blog. It&#039;s actually how I think blogs should be.

But right now ? I am incredibly frustrated and this house issue is yet another &quot;thing&quot;.

There you go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s frustration, sheer frustration at <em>everything</em> in my world being out of my control right now.</p>
<p>Cut or cry.<br />
Or both.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nothing more than me trying to express myself and because I never ever edit posts, or draft entries, when I write it comes out maybe not in a polished way. But that&#8217;s how I blog. It&#8217;s actually how I think blogs should be.</p>
<p>But right now ? I am incredibly frustrated and this house issue is yet another &#8220;thing&#8221;.</p>
<p>There you go.</p>
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		<title>By: pig</title>
		<link>http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/04/13/bend-at-the-toes/comment-page-1/#comment-2838</link>
		<dc:creator>pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 19:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I understand Ã¢â‚¬Ëœwoman-speakÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ quite well&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Really?

So far I get:

woman continually pointing man at option he doesn&#039;t want
woman nags man
woman thinks man should do what she wants
woman thinks she sees what man cannot

It doesn&#039;t sound like understanding, Mark.
It sounds like labeling, blaming, ranting.

Not that you don&#039;t get to do those things on your blog. I do them on mine all the time.

But is there something in your usage of the word &quot;understand&quot; that includes recognition of validity? Or is it entirely objectifying, processing of the other, &quot;I know what you&#039;re about/how you think entirely based on your genitalia&quot;?

I realize you&#039;re probably referring to some degree to a book you&#039;ve read (and that I haven&#039;t) when you say &quot;woman-speak&quot;, but when you extend that to all women (&quot;if you are female you will be thinking that...&quot;) and analogously for men it seems to shortchange both, presuming to know what someone will think and how they&#039;ll say it based solely on gender.

I like to think that I may, upon seeing a disagreement between friends, see pros and cons on either side based on what&#039;s actually happening. (And surely, also based on what I bring to the situation, but I think that what I bring isn&#039;t solely based on my gender either.)

This whole thing makes me sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I understand Ã¢â‚¬Ëœwoman-speakÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ quite well</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?</p>
<p>So far I get:</p>
<p>woman continually pointing man at option he doesn&#8217;t want<br />
woman nags man<br />
woman thinks man should do what she wants<br />
woman thinks she sees what man cannot</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t sound like understanding, Mark.<br />
It sounds like labeling, blaming, ranting.</p>
<p>Not that you don&#8217;t get to do those things on your blog. I do them on mine all the time.</p>
<p>But is there something in your usage of the word &#8220;understand&#8221; that includes recognition of validity? Or is it entirely objectifying, processing of the other, &#8220;I know what you&#8217;re about/how you think entirely based on your genitalia&#8221;?</p>
<p>I realize you&#8217;re probably referring to some degree to a book you&#8217;ve read (and that I haven&#8217;t) when you say &#8220;woman-speak&#8221;, but when you extend that to all women (&#8220;if you are female you will be thinking that&#8230;&#8221;) and analogously for men it seems to shortchange both, presuming to know what someone will think and how they&#8217;ll say it based solely on gender.</p>
<p>I like to think that I may, upon seeing a disagreement between friends, see pros and cons on either side based on what&#8217;s actually happening. (And surely, also based on what I bring to the situation, but I think that what I bring isn&#8217;t solely based on my gender either.)</p>
<p>This whole thing makes me sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
		<link>http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/04/13/bend-at-the-toes/comment-page-1/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You could always run to the gym. :P :secret:
Just kidding. Hope you win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You could always run to the gym. :P :secret:<br />
Just kidding. Hope you win.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.tamba2.org.uk/T2/2005/04/13/bend-at-the-toes/comment-page-1/#comment-2836</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 18:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me too.
It&#039;s just my take on the situation - I understand &#039;woman-speak&#039; quite well ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me too.<br />
It&#8217;s just my take on the situation &#8211; I understand &#8216;woman-speak&#8217; quite well ;)</p>
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		<title>By: pig</title>
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		<dc:creator>pig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;(if you are male, read that as me being continually pointed at the option I don&#039;t want and being nagged about it, whereas if you are female you will be thinking that I should do what the woman wants as she is undoubtedly seeing something I cannot)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Do we, both genders, suck that badly? I hope not. I was just feeling sorry that you&#039;re each unhappy with one of the options, wishing there were a house you both liked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>(if you are male, read that as me being continually pointed at the option I don&#8217;t want and being nagged about it, whereas if you are female you will be thinking that I should do what the woman wants as she is undoubtedly seeing something I cannot)</p></blockquote>
<p>Do we, both genders, suck that badly? I hope not. I was just feeling sorry that you&#8217;re each unhappy with one of the options, wishing there were a house you both liked.</p>
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